The Crag That Time Forgot

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The Crag That Time Forgot
The crag that time forgot?
The crag that time forgot?
Rock Type Natural Carboniferous Limestone
Climbing Style Trad
Approach Time 20 minutes
Area Gower
Sub Area Thurba to Overton
Local Area Rams Grove
WGS-84 Location 51.557328, -4.265923
OS Grid Ref. SS 430 867
WGS-84 Parking Location 51.565848, -4.270856
GR Parking Location SS 427 876
Parking Postcode SA3 1PH
Base Elevation metres
General Info
Faces Direction
Wind Sheltered
Climbing Type
Crags Within 600m

Deborah's Overhang, Deborah's Zawn, First Sister, Rams Grove Crag, Rams Grove Seaward Crag, Red Chamber, Saddam's Wall, Seaspit Small Cove, Second Sister, Sister 2 and Half, TV Zawn, The Crag That Time Forgot, The Knave, Third Sister, Thurba East, Thurba East Gully, Tooth Fairy


No one appears to know where this crag is. It's probably in Rams Grove somewhere. Possibly Saddam's Wall? There are two routes, but no route descriptions.[1]

The location for this crag in the 'InfoBox' merely locates Rams Grove.

If you find the crag, please let us know.


From the main Rhossili road, turn left in Pitton (south) to Great Pitton Farm (SS 427 876 or 51.556076, -4.267799) where there is a car park. The honesty box no longer exists and a system of seasonal tariffs is now in operation. Payment is made via a machine or paybyphone Ⓡ. See Pitton Parking for information on charges. Currently a maximum of £5.00 is charged for parking from 06.00 to 22.00.

Turn left when coming out of the car park and follow the road, past some houses and farm buildings, until it then becomes an unsurfaced track. At this point, the main track appears to veer off to the right. You should take the left fork (public footpath but marked, "Private Road"). Follow the track uphill for 75m passing through two gates. Then follow the track further (for 350m) until you come to another gate. Go through the gate and either follow the sign-posted footpath directions directing you via the edges of the field or strike out diagonally rightwards across the field for 260m to reach yet another gate.

Pass through this gate to head down a shallow grassy valley towards the sea to reach another gate on the Wales Coast Path after about 50 metres. This is the top end of Rams Grove (SS 430868). 1 km. (15 mins. from parking).

From here, your guess is as good as mine.

The Routes

  1. Jurassic Park E2,5c (J.Brown 1996)
  2. The Land Before Time VS,4b (J.Brown, K.Misson 1996)